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  1. I’ve written about this on my blog, spreading the word that you’re self-obsessed. Or have I missed the point? 😉

  2. I think the important thing to understand here is that the Sunday Telegraph has no particular interest in being objective. It wants to be entertaining and a great way to be entertaining is by labeling people stupid when they do not conform to its idea of its readers.
    Hence the very poor way the story takes Laurel out of context.
    Let’s not have The Tele used as a representative of all journalism, much of which is thoughtful, well-intentioned and well-researched.

  3. aye agreed. And some of my favourite journalists even hang around on Twitter – such as AFR’s Renai LeMay Heh.

    In Australia Media: Just Stop It (above) I talk about the love/hate relationship: that bloggers LOVE journalists, and traditional media articles, quote them, dissect them and pay as much attention as one does to a new lover. It’s just not reciprocated … *weeps brokenheartedly*

  4. Hey Laurel.
    Your experience comes from the school of journalism that decides the headline *before* doing the research and reporting.
    Simon’s point is a good one too.
    The trap social/digital media people should not fall into as a result is to think ALL journalists behave like this.

  5. “By the way, I’m using tinyURL to link to News.com.au articles until News figures out that linking outside of their own site actually works better for them than linking only to their own articles.”

    News.com.au links to outside sources far more regularly than other major news websites. In fact we’ve made it a priority in the Tech section, along with proper credit for story sources.

  6. hey Andrew, well as a number of commenters have pointed out – and it’s bleeding obvious too! 😛 – NOT all journalists are the same (nor are all bloggers). I accept that the Tech section would be more web 2.0 savvy.

    I’ll make a deal. If I see the article links to sites that are relevant, I’ll link directly. If however they are ‘nofollow’ or linking internally, no go.

    I mean, why would Evan talk about me and say “I don’t know what a social network strategist does” when he could just as easily link to this blog or laurelpapworth.com if he really wanted to have a discussion? It’s not like there’s not 26,000 links to me :P.

    NVM. I guess I know the answer to that one…

  7. The trad newspaper media is full of lying hacks that are only interested in seeing if they can get their story on the front page on whatever nasty publication they work for – regardless of the damage they may do to their subjects. They will fan flames, take quotes out of context, lie, get supporting quotes for their view from people who are not given the contextual information, and then misuse the quotes. They will do anything to get a quote to make a story and if they don’t get it they will infer it from nothing. If you give any kind of interview to the traditional media, this is the kind of treatment you can expect. Don’t trust them. Don’t deal with them.

  8. Frustrating as hell!!! Makes my blood boil. Libellous much?

    During the furore about the burlesque dancers at the climate change conference I did an interview for a paper. I talked about how the burlesque dancers had been labelled “strippers” in the media, and explained the difference between stripping and burlesque. The article’s title was about “strippers”. sigh.

  9. I think there is a difference between reporters and columnists. Reporters are trained to report on the news and for the most part do a good job. I don’t see bloggers covering this at all.

    However a huge part of most papers online or offline is taken up by columists. Regardless of whether they are trained as journalists I cannot see the difference between these people and bloggers. Most of the time they are just subject matter experts. So I’m pretty perplexed by the debate.

    It’s quite an emotive issue and I’m quite amused by it. The average person moves on and offline as it suits them. They get what they want – how they want it. I can’t see why not being online is somehow worthy of comment. It’s a little like those people who say they only watch the ABC.

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